Comments on: Cotto-Clottey Prediction http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/ The musings of a freelance boxing writer Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:12:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Andrew Harrison http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-69 Andrew Harrison Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:38:07 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-69 Is there a more significant fight in boxing than Manny-JMM 3? Ok I'll spot you Pac-Mayweather but I'd doubt there are any more. I've a feeling Pacquiao will have another couple of pension boosting fights before he settles the score with his nemesis. Valero, Mayweather then JMM, wouldn't be a bad finish would it? Is there a more significant fight in boxing than Manny-JMM 3? Ok I’ll spot you Pac-Mayweather but I’d doubt there are any more.
I’ve a feeling Pacquiao will have another couple of pension boosting fights before he settles the score with his nemesis. Valero, Mayweather then JMM, wouldn’t be a bad finish would it?

]]> By: David "irondave85" Lee http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-68 David "irondave85" Lee Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:07:34 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-68 Clottey should now hound Berto until he agrees to fight him. I think he'd chew him up and, with the WBC in his possession, it would put him right back in the picture. As for Cotto v Pacquiao, I think at 147 it's a great fight and no walkover for Manny in my opinion. But at 142, which is what Roach wants it at, forget it! Cotto would have no legs at that weight and Pacquiao would put on a hurting akin to the Oscar fight. I find it funny that with all these names being thrown out as possible opponents for Manny (Mosley, Cotto, Mayweather etc.) there's one name that never gets a mention. JM Marquez. Despite drawing with and beating Marquez (both fights I scored for JM), Pacquiao has never truly proven his superiority over the Mexican. How's about a third fight? Clottey should now hound Berto until he agrees to fight him. I think he’d chew him up and, with the WBC in his possession, it would put him right back in the picture.

As for Cotto v Pacquiao, I think at 147 it’s a great fight and no walkover for Manny in my opinion. But at 142, which is what Roach wants it at, forget it! Cotto would have no legs at that weight and Pacquiao would put on a hurting akin to the Oscar fight.

I find it funny that with all these names being thrown out as possible opponents for Manny (Mosley, Cotto, Mayweather etc.) there’s one name that never gets a mention. JM Marquez. Despite drawing with and beating Marquez (both fights I scored for JM), Pacquiao has never truly proven his superiority over the Mexican.

How’s about a third fight?

]]> By: Andrew Harrison http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-67 Andrew Harrison Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:13:52 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-67 Just caught the 8pm replay on Setanta Dave, firstly cracking fight, that's why I still watch this sport, thoroughly enjoyed it. The cut really bothered Cotto throughout the middle rounds, must be hell fighting with your sight hampered, however (and this'll sound bizarre) he was lucky. If the cut had been over his right eye, he'd have been toast, all Clottey's best work comes with his left hand, he looked a tad lost trying to land rights. For what it's worth I scored it: Cotto-Clottey 10-9 9-10 10-9 10-9 9-10 10-9 9-10 9-10 9-10 9-10 10-9 10-9 ----- 114-114 Bit of a bummer it came out a draw, mind you I had trouble scoring the 8th, almost scored it even which would have given Cotto the nod, can't really argue for anyone scoring it a point either way, although the judge who scored for Cotto by 5 should be suitably admonished (bloody struck off!!). Great comparison with Clottey and Quartey, they fight pretty similiar, especially when jabbing, pity for Josh he doesn't own Ike's power. Quartey also felt robbed in a couple of fights, namely against Oscar and Vargas. If Clottey had only managed to be more active but credit Cotto, he boxed superbly against a bigger, stronger guy (no way are they naturally the same weight) with a crab like guard; he did a top job. Unfortunately I wouldn't give him a prayer against Pacquiao, I quite like him so hope he gets Mosley or Berto next. Clottey should fight Collazo, at least one of them would finally get a win........unless it's scored as above!!! Just caught the 8pm replay on Setanta Dave, firstly cracking fight, that’s why I still watch this sport, thoroughly enjoyed it.
The cut really bothered Cotto throughout the middle rounds, must be hell fighting with your sight hampered, however (and this’ll sound bizarre) he was lucky. If the cut had been over his right eye, he’d have been toast, all Clottey’s best work comes with his left hand, he looked a tad lost trying to land rights. For what it’s worth I scored it:

Cotto-Clottey

10-9
9-10
10-9
10-9
9-10
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10
9-10
10-9
10-9
—–
114-114

Bit of a bummer it came out a draw, mind you I had trouble scoring the 8th, almost scored it even which would have given Cotto the nod, can’t really argue for anyone scoring it a point either way, although the judge who scored for Cotto by 5 should be suitably admonished (bloody struck off!!).
Great comparison with Clottey and Quartey, they fight pretty similiar, especially when jabbing, pity for Josh he doesn’t own Ike’s power.
Quartey also felt robbed in a couple of fights, namely against Oscar and Vargas.
If Clottey had only managed to be more active but credit Cotto, he boxed superbly against a bigger, stronger guy (no way are they naturally the same weight) with a crab like guard; he did a top job.
Unfortunately I wouldn’t give him a prayer against Pacquiao, I quite like him so hope he gets Mosley or Berto next. Clottey should fight Collazo, at least one of them would finally get a win……..unless it’s scored as above!!!

]]> By: David "irondave85" Lee http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-66 David "irondave85" Lee Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:07:53 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-66 Hope you get to see it Haz. Fantastic fight. Cotto fought with the heart of a warrior and Clottey fought with the brain of a knucklehead! Cotto was toast after the eight round and Clottey inexplicably took his foot off the gas. In fact, in the last three rounds he simply stopped punching. Reminded me a small bit of Quartey v Oscar. Ghanaian's must score fights in their heads....... badly! Hope you get to see it Haz. Fantastic fight. Cotto fought with the heart of a warrior and Clottey fought with the brain of a knucklehead! Cotto was toast after the eight round and Clottey inexplicably took his foot off the gas. In fact, in the last three rounds he simply stopped punching. Reminded me a small bit of Quartey v Oscar. Ghanaian’s must score fights in their heads……. badly!

]]> By: Andrew Harrison http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-65 Andrew Harrison Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:31:43 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-65 Well, not a bad prediction at all!! I'm feeling very nostrodamus-like today!! Can't comment too much as I have as yet not managed to see the flipping thing (thank you Setanta). First they switch it to Setanta 2 (why?????) then they backheel the 7pm replay for........gulp......golf.......no wonder they're in the mire.....there goes my subscription for one. Well, not a bad prediction at all!! I’m feeling very nostrodamus-like today!!
Can’t comment too much as I have as yet not managed to see the flipping thing (thank you Setanta).
First they switch it to Setanta 2 (why?????) then they backheel the 7pm replay for……..gulp……golf…….no wonder they’re in the mire…..there goes my subscription for one.

]]> By: David "irondave85" Lee http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-64 David "irondave85" Lee Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:15:48 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-64 Well I did pick Hatton to beat Pacquaio, so I'd keep my money in my pocket when listening to David Lee's tips if I were you, lol. Overrall though, not doing too bad with my underdog picks this year. I tipped Dunne to beat Cordoba, Bouzaine to beat Napa and Froch to beat Taylor (I know Froch wasn't a big underdog but you'd be surprised at how few people were tipping him to win). This one's a genuine pick 'em however (I agree about the ridiculous odds by the way) and one that could go either way. There's just still too many questions about Cotto that remain unanswered since the Margarito battering for me to favour him. We know what we're gonna get from Clottey, but how will Cotto react if his back's against the wall? It's fascinating stuff and I for one cannot wait! Well I did pick Hatton to beat Pacquaio, so I’d keep my money in my pocket when listening to David Lee’s tips if I were you, lol.

Overrall though, not doing too bad with my underdog picks this year. I tipped Dunne to beat Cordoba, Bouzaine to beat Napa and Froch to beat Taylor (I know Froch wasn’t a big underdog but you’d be surprised at how few people were tipping him to win).

This one’s a genuine pick ‘em however (I agree about the ridiculous odds by the way) and one that could go either way. There’s just still too many questions about Cotto that remain unanswered since the Margarito battering for me to favour him. We know what we’re gonna get from Clottey, but how will Cotto react if his back’s against the wall?

It’s fascinating stuff and I for one cannot wait!

]]> By: Andrew Harrison http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-62 Andrew Harrison Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:43:57 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-62 I've been checking interviews with Clottey and he seems to realise that he needs to throw more punches and pressurise Cotto in order to get the job done. Counterpunching might not be enough tonight, he needs to put the heat on. I can see Cotto flurrying before catching a heavy counter in return leaving the judges with the dilemma of quantity versus quality, I can even see Cotto in trouble a couple of times. I thought I'd start making predictions on the blog to freshen it up a bit and draw more folk in, what a fight to start with!! I'm doing ok of late, had Cintron over Angulo and Berto over Collazo, this one's tricky though!!! If you're correct Dave I'll be hounding you for picks in future!! I’ve been checking interviews with Clottey and he seems to realise that he needs to throw more punches and pressurise Cotto in order to get the job done. Counterpunching might not be enough tonight, he needs to put the heat on.
I can see Cotto flurrying before catching a heavy counter in return leaving the judges with the dilemma of quantity versus quality, I can even see Cotto in trouble a couple of times.
I thought I’d start making predictions on the blog to freshen it up a bit and draw more folk in, what a fight to start with!!
I’m doing ok of late, had Cintron over Angulo and Berto over Collazo, this one’s tricky though!!!
If you’re correct Dave I’ll be hounding you for picks in future!!

]]> By: David "irondave85" Lee http://safesideoftheropes.com/2009/06/12/cotto-clottey-prediction/#comment-61 David "irondave85" Lee Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:21:55 +0000 http://safesideoftheropes.com/?p=262#comment-61 I have a feeling Clottey wins this by late stoppage if he lets his hands go a bit more. Too often he lets rounds slip by not working enough. I think tonight we will see Clottey open up more than we're used to seeing from him. If this was before the Tony fight I'd have picked Cotto in a heartbeat. But that fight left a question mark over Cotto's mental state in my opinion. Could Tony have had "extra force" in his punches in that fight? Sure. But then maybe he also had that advantage over Williams and Clottey, neither of whom wilted the way Cotto did. I think, after looking sharp early on, Cotto will be worn down by Clottey's slow and steady pressure, plus the fact he'll be disheartned by his punches not having the desired effect on the Ghanaian, and I predict he'll be stopped somewhere around the 11th. I have a feeling Clottey wins this by late stoppage if he lets his hands go a bit more. Too often he lets rounds slip by not working enough. I think tonight we will see Clottey open up more than we’re used to seeing from him. If this was before the Tony fight I’d have picked Cotto in a heartbeat. But that fight left a question mark over Cotto’s mental state in my opinion. Could Tony have had “extra force” in his punches in that fight? Sure. But then maybe he also had that advantage over Williams and Clottey, neither of whom wilted the way Cotto did. I think, after looking sharp early on, Cotto will be worn down by Clottey’s slow and steady pressure, plus the fact he’ll be disheartned by his punches not having the desired effect on the Ghanaian, and I predict he’ll be stopped somewhere around the 11th.

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